Thursday, May 26, 2005

Tom Cruise and Brooke Sheilds

Over the years I've come to feel badly for the Scientologists. Yeah, the whole zemu thing is very odd, but they have a right to believe whatever they want. I just wish they had steered clear of the psychiatric debate. Too many people think bad things about scientology and it can make things very uncomfortable for other activists.

On that note, we look at Tom Cruise's recent comments about Brooke Shields using Paxil to help her with post-partum depression. In his own words:

"These drugs are dangerous. I have actually helped people come off," Cruise maintains to Bush. "When you talk about postpartum, you can take people today, women, and what you do is you use vitamins. There is a hormonal thing that is going on, scientifically, you can prove that. But when you talk about emotional, chemical imbalances in people, there is no science behind that. You can use vitamins to help a woman through those things."

And many in the press groaned ... in their minds it has long been decided that depression is a chemical imbalance. I groan because I think most depression is emotional.

While looking around online I found this clip that I thought was particularly eloquent:

ALL emotional responses have a chemical consequence. When we laugh, for example, there is a greater amount of chemical endorphins (natural painkillers) released into the blood stream. Endorphins do not cause laughter however, they are a consequence of it.

Until recently, and partly because of drug-company marketing, the widespread belief was that depression was a biological illness. It’s even been called a ‘disease.’


Depression is 10 times more common in people born since 1945 compared to people born before 1945. So, ten times as people are becoming depressed now as compared to fifty years ago (and this research takes into account increased reporting and public awareness). Biology doesn't change this fast. Genes don’t alter this rapidly - so this is a clue that clinical depression and its increase are more to do with the way society and lifestyles are changing. Depression is not an inevitable consequence of adverse life circumstances either, as only a minority of people exposed to difficult situations go on to develop clinical depression.
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The way we respond to situations (with thoughts of hopelessness, helplessness, anxiety, anger, etc.) effects the emotions we feel which, in turn effect the chemicals which are released.

So according to this theory, the reason why Brooke Shields and other women suffer from post-partum depression and psychosis is because their stress levels are high, which effects their emotional state. I would venture to guess that hormones make them more emotional in general as well. I know I was very weepy with both joy and sorrow when my child was born. And all this emotion, change, and stress, and inability to deal with the stress, causes depression.

That makes a lot more sense to me than biological psychiatry's assertion that it's all purely physical. Oddly, I get the feeling that that's what Cruise is advocating as well - that it's all hormonal.

Still doubt me and my "for 90% of people depression is emotional" theory? Well, consider this: a few weeks before Brooke Shield’s child was born her father died of cancer after a long illness and she and her husband moved to a new apartment. Then they gave birth. That sounds like mountains of stress to me. I might spend a lot of time crying too under those difficult circumstances.

It's about people's hearts and souls. It's about who they are in the most profound sense. What it is not about is a pill, whether it's Paxil or a vitamin supplement. There are no magic solutions to bad feelings.
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15 Comments:

lillielaw said...

I am glad I found your blog. I just read about Tom Cruise's comments about Brooke Sheilds' use of paxil today.
I was astonished as I just watched him being entirely spastic on the Oprah show just a few days ago.
I had not idea he he believed in scientology.
I agree with your theory completely.

10:38 PM  
Tammy said...

Where was TOm Cruise when Andrea Yates husband left her alone with 5 children. Why wasn't he there for her if he's so educated about PPD.. Maybe he can start a foundation that will provide free counseling and meds...Nicole and He adopted..He didn't experince PPD. I'm not sure if his comments were in anger because he is unable to conceive. WOnder if vitamins and excersice will cure his infertility???Just wondering..

4:52 PM  
Amy said...

I just wanted to say that I read Brooke Shields was stopping her medication to get pregnant again. If the drugs aren't dangerous, why can't she take them while pregnant? She is promoting in her book, drugs that could be potentially harmful to unborn babies to millions of women who are having babies. Most women don't know they are pregnant for several months. Is she right for doing this?

4:47 PM  
Robbin said...

Its people such as Tom Cruise who take the most amazing advance in clinical depressions and turn it into a farce. I am sure Tom has never had the ''privledge'' to sink into the depths of a major depressive episode....
His lack of knowledge and compassion should directly influence his credibility as any type of spokesman or ''expert'' on topicse he seems to know nothing about.
Ignore this man and pray for his enlightenment in matters as grave as depression...

3:32 PM  
Christina said...

I am so glad to find this website,I agree with everyone has a right to belive in what they choose,but until you have walked a mile in someone else shoes.You have no right to judge!I have suffered with my depression for 20 years,the wrost part is being judge for something I can't control.I use to be ashamed and hid it from people that only made me worse.I now try to learn all I can,I watched a good friend die who was bi-polar and thought she could just stop her meds,because she was feeling better.She killed herself not knowing it was the meds that was making her feel better.

9:45 PM  
angie said...

To Christina,

Oh my Christina, you said your friend stopped her meds, and then killed herself? I'm so sorry. It's just, one BIG side effect of psych meds is when you stop them, going through withdrawl causes suicidal tendencies, and you have just highlighted a huge concern, and what you have said would be a huge argument AGAINST taking them, not for taking them.

And it's Tom Cruise's religious beliefs, not to believe in pyschiatry. This country was founded on freedom of religion and the right to free speech. If you take that away, then you take away our freedom period.

12:43 AM  
angie said...

To CHRISTINA,

Oh, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. This is terrible, but what you've said is more like a reason NOT to take psych medication. Many psych meds have the horrible side effect of going through withdrawl when you stop them, and CAUSING SUICIDAL TENDENCIES. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you said she killed herself AFTER she stopped taking them. THIS IS ONE OF THE SADDEST THINGS I'VE HEARD.

12:47 AM  
angie said...

LET FREEDOM RING! FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

DON'T LET THE MEDIA TAKE THIS RIGHT AWAY FROM US!

TOM CRUISE HAS THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF RELIGION. HIS RELIGION DOES NOT BELIEVE IN PSYCHIATRY. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A REPORTER ATTACK AND TRY TO DISCREDIT YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ON NATIONAL TELEVISION?

12:49 AM  
angie said...

JUST AND FYI.....

II've seen this posted on other boards and it's true.

THE NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL SUED THE MAKERS OF PAXIL (Brooke's treatment) FOR FRAUD BECAUSE THEY WERE LYING ABOUT SAFTEY AND EFFECTIVENESS. THIS WAS RECENT!

12:51 AM  
angie said...

Sorry, to christina, I thought the first post didn't go through, didn't mean to post 2x.

12:53 AM  
Erica said...

Studies have shown that people who have more stressors in their lives have higher rates of mental illness. It makes sense that people who have babies may be more stressed out and therefore become depressed. Mental illnesses mostlikely have to do with chemicals becoming imbalanced in our bodies because of constant sources of stress. Some people may want to take medication that helps correct this imbalance.
Tom Cruise needs to do his research before he starts jabbering away about something he doesn't know about.

4:30 AM  
Jo said...

I was treated for mild depression after exercise and diets were altered to try an alleviate my stress levels. There were severe and varying emotional triggers in my life I had no control over which affected my well being. I have an excellent relationship with my doctor and conferenced with her regularly regarding my medical background and issues. I was given Prozac in it's mildest dose and that small amount, with continued stress management via diet and exercise helped me greatly. I was taking the medication for about a year.

Mr. Cruise is in no position to comment. He can 'worship' how he chooses, but he has no business judging others for their decisions. He can state what he believes, but to pass judgment as he did was irresponsible at best. He only knows psychiatry from one perspective - his own.

I applaud Brooke Shields for her honesty and courage to talk about such a personal issue. Thank you Mr. Cruise, I'm now going out to buy Brooke's new book! : )

7:49 PM  
Tommy said...

I read several comments and thought I would make a statement of my own. It seems that all of the postings omit what I beleive is the reason for most depression, sadness etc. The postings say that these bad feelings or depressions just happen, as if the person has nothing to do with the cause. This is rubbish! A person is responsible for the condition he or she is in based on their action, inactions, and decisions.
A person goes out and steals some money or cheats someone and feels depressed. You think the answer to his depression is a drug?
No! He's got to get honest and straight! Give back the money make it right by the person or person's he's hurt.
Sure everyone is'nt a theif or a murderer but we all have done things that are not in everyone elses best interest that we hide. I beleive Tom Cruise is correct, abrupt as he was, in his assessment of Psychiatry. I beleive they don't truly understand man in general and pretend that they do.
A man is happy if he's honest, kind and hard working. If he is not honest kind or hard working drugs will not make him so.

8:07 PM  
Tommy said...

It seems like we are forgetting that we create our own feelings. A person goes out and steals or cheals or lies etc. He will feel bad. We all have a plithory of such misdeeds. I am sorry to say that these deeds cause most of the depression, maladies etc. for a human being. Drugs do not handle this type of thing. They handle malaria or snake bites but not unhappiness if you may.
We need to take responsibility for our actions and be honest hard working and considerate of others. This is the road to happiness and good health not drugs.

8:15 PM  
Jo said...

I'm sorry, but Tommy you are way off base with your insight. You are comparing apples and oranges and lemons...

Yes, Mr. Cruise may believe what he wishes, but to pass judgement the way he did was reckless at best. He knows little of the situation, much less of a doctor's relationship with a patient. And to confront the issue like he did was obnoxious.

Yes, we can control our emotions, but to compare criminal actions, the way you did, with that of childbirth and postpartum depression is ignorant. What it shows is the lack of understanding and knowledge of biological changes and how it can relate to a persons psychological well-being.

I HAVE studied psychology and know that the physical, biological and psychological components of a person are connected in many ways and on many levels - from the simple to the complex. Mr. Cruise is basing his knowledge from a 'religious' stand point and presenting it in a damaging way.

I have never had children and I will not second guess Ms. Shields decision without walking in her shoes.

I doubt Mr. Cruise has 'studied' psychology in any well-rounded sense gathering multiple examples and using a variety of resources to sum up his conclusions to make a truly educated comment. It seems to me his opinions are one-sided and a bit arrogant based upon his religion and how 'THEY' interpret the issues.

7:13 PM  

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